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Hi 3 pics advice. I feel I have got to a certain point but how do to improve further?
Here are 3 but there are more where I think there is something missing but it's hard to put my finger on it.

http://500px.com/photo/62744085
http://500px.com/photo/62832913
http://500px.com/photo/63020127

this links seems to take you to my whole 5oopx page!
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#2

Stunning shots, gerainte! I honestly don't know what would make them better, I like them as they are Smile
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#3

Thanks for your really positive comment.

I do think they each lack something in either composition, for example the first rock in the beach is not fully captured, or colour, the waterfall lacks punch. There's an amazing shot of this waterfall in Landscape Photographer of the Year 5 ,now while I know I'm no where near that level it would be good to know how to get towards that.

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#4

The subject of this post is common to human potential and endeavour in any field.

How does a person become an orchestral instrumentalist - partly by genetic components such as physical dexterity and a predisposition to sound and music, and partly by developing those innate features by learning, training, practice, and more practice.

How does a person become a higher level sportsman/woman - partly by having the genetic factors to create the ideal relationships of basic bone, muscle and joint structure and coordination, appropriate to that sport, and partly by learning, training, practice and more practice.

How does a person become a good/better photographer - partly by having the genetic components required for recognising and visualising relationships of shape, form, light, colour and composition, and partly by learning, training, practice, and more practice.

There are no short cuts. The best we can do is to get shooting and processing. We might take several shots at each location, and find out what effects small changes have on the images - e.g. our position relative to the subject, the orientation of the camera, using different focal lengths, altering the exposure parameters, shooting at different times and in different light, etc. etc. Alongside practising the skills of image capture, we also need to develop our use of the digital darkroom (computer software) to process our images, in order to achieve the subtle effects we set out to achieve.

So progress in photography involves learning, training, practice, and more practice. Progress will happen, but the increments of improvement will tend to become smaller, and each increment becomes harder to achieve and harder to recognise, just as it does with regard to those other human activities.

I hope you can enjoy developing your photography skills. Smile
Cheers.
Philip
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#5

[quote='gerainte' pid='93904' dateline='1394284142']
Hi 3 pics advice. I feel I have got to a certain point but how do to improve further?
Here are 3 but there are more where I think there is something missing but it's hard to put my finger on it.

http://500px.com/photo/62744085
http://500px.com/photo/62832913
http://500px.com/photo/63020127

Hi Gerainte, These pics are amazing!! It is so hard when one sees photos of the same scene by someone else and wish we could do it as well, I fight with that all the time. Your picture is unique and while you may want to see more, it is truly incredible! My mentor always told me, the moment frozen in time is my moment and no one can recreate it......:-)

Waterfall: Stunning!!!!! I am not sure I would do anything different, the rock draws you in, the swirl of the water captivates you and the waterfall flows beautifully with such peace and serenity. I contemplated doing a little cropping on the right side as there isn't much going on there, then the water swirling caught my eye. I truly love it as is.

I do share your sentiment about the other two photo's there is something missing.

Rocks: Maybe a little dodging of the darker area's of what looks like moss to bring in more detail and contrast?

Landscape: Beautiful!! My eyes were being drawn to behind the home, I would love to see all the blocks of land behind it brighter in more detail, as it seemed very interesting to me. It really sucked me in to look for more. Lastly, Have you tried bumping up the saturation at all? Lastly what angle were you at, maybe its just an angle issue?

All in all, in my opinion you have 3 keepers here!!!!! Congrats!

Di
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#6

(Mar 9, 2014, 05:55)MrB Wrote:  The subject of this post is common to human potential and endeavour in any field.

How does a person become an orchestral instrumentalist - partly by genetic components such as physical dexterity and a predisposition to sound and music, and partly by developing those innate features by learning, training, practice, and more practice.

How does a person become a higher level sportsman/woman - partly by having the genetic factors to create the ideal relationships of basic bone, muscle and joint structure and coordination, appropriate to that sport, and partly by learning, training, practice and more practice.

How does a person become a good/better photographer - partly by having the genetic components required for recognising and visualising relationships of shape, form, light, colour and composition, and partly by learning, training, practice, and more practice.

There are no short cuts. The best we can do is to get shooting and processing. We might take several shots at each location, and find out what effects small changes have on the images - e.g. our position relative to the subject, the orientation of the camera, using different focal lengths, altering the exposure parameters, shooting at different times and in different light, etc. etc. Alongside practising the skills of image capture, we also need to develop our use of the digital darkroom (computer software) to process our images, in order to achieve the subtle effects we set out to achieve.

So progress in photography involves learning, training, practice, and more practice. Progress will happen, but the increments of improvement will tend to become smaller, and each increment becomes harder to achieve and harder to recognise, just as it does with regard to those other human activities.

I hope you can enjoy developing your photography skills. Smile
Cheers.
Philip

Thanks for your wise comments, you are of course right and we should enjoy the journey.
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#7

(Mar 9, 2014, 18:55)dianebaughn Wrote:  [quote='gerainte' pid='93904' dateline='1394284142']
Hi 3 pics advice. I feel I have got to a certain point but how do to improve further?
Here are 3 but there are more where I think there is something missing but it's hard to put my finger on it.

http://500px.com/photo/62744085
http://500px.com/photo/62832913
http://500px.com/photo/63020127

Hi Gerainte, These pics are amazing!! It is so hard when one sees photos of the same scene by someone else and wish we could do it as well, I fight with that all the time. Your picture is unique and while you may want to see more, it is truly incredible! My mentor always told me, the moment frozen in time is my moment and no one can recreate it......:-)

Waterfall: Stunning!!!!! I am not sure I would do anything different, the rock draws you in, the swirl of the water captivates you and the waterfall flows beautifully with such peace and serenity. I contemplated doing a little cropping on the right side as there isn't much going on there, then the water swirling caught my eye. I truly love it as is.

I do share your sentiment about the other two photo's there is something missing.

Rocks: Maybe a little dodging of the darker area's of what looks like moss to bring in more detail and contrast?

Landscape: Beautiful!! My eyes were being drawn to behind the home, I would love to see all the blocks of land behind it brighter in more detail, as it seemed very interesting to me. It really sucked me in to look for more. Lastly, Have you tried bumping up the saturation at all? Lastly what angle were you at, maybe its just an angle issue?

All in all, in my opinion you have 3 keepers here!!!!! Congrats!

Di

Thanks, helpful points. I'll have a re-look. The angle of the landscape was from a hillside above looking down
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