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slejhamer wrote:

Okay, but I think it would be easier to return the camera and cellphone to the store...

Welcome to Shuttertalk Shunkaha! 

You know, it's the tolerance and sensitivity towards other people's opinions and beliefs (dispite not necessarily agreeing with them) that I really like about this list.  It brings us together instead of dividing us.

ST, Slej, Pete and Toad.. you've just demonstrated this tolerance wonderfully.
I wonder if our friend Shunkaha is so tolerant?  I hope so.

It strikes me as curious that Shunkaha should " Forever and ever return it and The Demons to The Sender OneHundredFold" to anyone who spreads curses, bad luck, negativity, jinxes or the like.  Is it just me, or does spreading such ill-will towards others sound somewhat hypocritical to anyone else?

Shunkaha defines Evil as including "everything else on every evil list imaginable in The Whole Entire World".  hmmm... I'd imagine "intolerance" and "hypocrisy" would feature on somebody's evil list somewhere (it would certainly feature on mine), and to me this term seems to fairly accurately describe Shunkaha's post.  I'd also imagine terms like "personal vengeance" and "malice" would also appear on evil lists (in fact they could be covered by Shunkaha's own term of "negativity and the like").

I'm against evil too Shunkaha.  I think you'll find the vast majority of people in the world are, even some of those people who make your "list" above.  But what is evil and what isn't?  Well, I'm sure if the world could agree on an answer to that one we could probably prevent a lot of wars.

You are completely entitled to your opinions and beliefs, and I can see that you certainly feel strongly about them.  But the flip-side of that freedom is that other people are entitled to their opinions and beliefs as well.  I personally think the best way to "eliminate negativity" in the world (which seems to be one of your goals) is to learn to respect and understand diversity in others before judging it.
It won't stop all people doing truly "evil things", but you might find your list of evil doers becomes a LOT shorter as you discover their reasons instead of judging them at face value.

And before you dismiss my post and curse me to "forever cut and burn (my) ungodly silvercord", please ask yourself what is driving you.  Am I really evil? Or are you just annoyed because I don't agree with you?

I'm happy to discuss your manifesto in a friendly manner if you care to, but please keep in mind the Rules of This Forum when posting.

Regards
Adrian

I agree largely with your sentiments, Kombisarus - as a Christian I think Jesus' command to "Turn the other cheek" makes the idea of returning evil for evil an untenable position. We should ask for the Lord's protection from evil forces, but to demand the return of evil in His name is totally against all He stands for. Moreover, I don't believe we have a "clockwork God" who can be bent to our will by the recitation of suitable "spells".

--NN

noisynoodle wrote:

I agree largely with your sentiments, Kombisarus - as a Christian I think Jesus' command to "Turn the other cheek" makes the idea of returning evil for evil an untenable position. We should ask for the Lord's protection from evil forces, but to demand the return of evil in His name is totally against all He stands for. Moreover, I don't believe we have a "clockwork God" who can be bent to our will by the recitation of suitable "spells".

Hey NN,
Thanks for your support.

Interestingly perhaps as this is a Christian section of the forum, I'm actually not a Christian at all (I'm an agnostic).
But I feel quite comfortable posting my views in this forum because I think the regulars here accept them even if they disagree with them, and I would defend their right to their beliefs just as I would defend my own.

As far as I could see, Shunkaha's post was a personal statement about moral values (and about as representative of Christianity as me saying "stealing is bad").  I hope nobody thinks I was treading on toes by putting my stance forward - as it may not be representative of the people who frequent the Christian section of this forum.  But I do have my own morals and consider my opinion to be as valid as anyone else's, so I hit the <submit> button.  And I did mention that it was all just my own personal opinion.

And EnglishBob.. Did you notice it said "I forever cut and burn their ungodly silvercord and Laylines"???  Now if you say silvercord is fibre-optic cable, then perhaps "laylines" is just a typo for land-lines!  Perhaps Shunkaha is a rep for a wireless ISP trying to take over the world? 
I couldn't find an entry for "laylines", "lay-lines" or "lay lines" in www.dictionary.com yet I did find one for "landlines".  Coincidence?  I think not!      You be the judge!  <conspiracy theories rush through mind>

Lay lines you won't find as they miss-spelled it.  should be ley lines.

Ley lines, or Leys, are alignments of ancient sites stretching across the landscape. Ancient sites or holy places may be situated in a straight line ranging from one or two to several miles in length. A ley may be identified simply by an aligned placing of marker sites, or it might be visible on the ground for all or part of its length by the remnants of an old straight track.

Ley Lines were 're-discovered' on 30 June 1921 by Alfred Watkins (1855-1935), a locally well-known and respected Herefordshire businessman, who while looking at a map for features of interest noticed a straight line that passed over hill tops through various points of interest, all of which were ancient. At the time of his discovery, Watkins had no theory about alignments but on that June afternoon saw "in a flash" a whole pattern of lines stretching across the landscape. Four years later, in 1925, he described his vision in a book he titled The Old Straight Track:

EnglishBob wrote:

Lay lines you won't find as they miss-spelled it.  should be ley lines.

Ley lines, or Leys, are <snip>

Snap! 

You typed that just as I was typing my post Bob!

Certainly I think the obvious differences in the quality and reasearch behind the definition of "ley lines" that you provided (from what appears to be a reliable source) compared to the one that I provided (from www.demonbusters.com) does a good job in illustrating the quality and research behind the rest of the content on that site.  You have to wonder about the professionalism of a religious website that has a "Shop online with me, your Mary Kay independent Beauty Consultant" link at the bottom of every page in an Arial 14 font (not even a banner ad), and a "HOME FOR SALE IN CENTRAL MISSISSIPPI" link (also in Arial 14, and caps) as the very first words of their homepage.

I think I prefer the fibre-optic and land-line definitions

Cheers
Adrian

ooo... the plot thickens!
I love mysteries! 

The only question I'm left with is... what were you doing trolling the lesbian personals Pete?  That would appear to be a complete waste of time for any guy.    

Kombisaurus wrote:

ooo... the plot thickens!
I love mysteries! 

The only question I'm left with is... what were you doing trolling the lesbian personals Pete?  That would appear to be a complete waste of time for any guy.    

Well, I googled her name and Lesbian personals were just a couple of the links that came up. As far as being a waste of time for use guys, I did notice some of the posts were from bi-sexual women.  

Okay, cynics, explain this:  after I wrote my comment above, my cell phone went on the fritz! 

Truly!   I had just charged the battery to full, got the "charging complete" indicator, and then a few minutes later it was flashing a "Low Battery" warning! 

And then something happened that really scared me:  my wife was having trouble getting the DVD player to work!   Well, sure, it turned out that my 3-year old daughter had put a music CD in the DVD tray and that's why we had sound but no picture - but we must ask WHAT EVIL FORCE GUIDED HER HAND to put in the wrong type of media disc? 

Freakin' Boyce.